Time to Leave the Churches

Summary: Comparing churches' doctrines and teachings to the Bible, I find all churches are severely deficient, and producing spiritually-dead people. My only bias is towards God. My wisdom comes from God, not from earthly organizations or church denominations.

Obviously no church leaders today are true believers; none are filled with the Holy Spirit. Yes, a bold claim; how dare I say this? Here's why:

Mark 16:17-18

Jesus said: "And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”

John 14:12-14

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

If the pope or the most devout protestant church leader walk into a hospital, can they heal anybody? No. Can they put their hand on a child in wheelchair and make her walk? No. And yet they are the top decision-makers on doctrines, theology, and what to teach people!! And people are still in churches listening to their inefficient teaching and false doctrines!!

Comparison of Christian Leaders' Accomplishments, Then and Now

Disciples & Apostles' accomplishments, then:

  • Preached the Word correctly? Yes

  • Laid their hands on sick people and healed them? Yes

  • Laid their hands on crippled people and made them walk? Yes

  • Brought dead people back to life?! (Peter and Paul did!) Yes

  • Paul accidentally picked up a venomous snake and it did not harm him.

  • Number of changes in God's realm: 0 - As it should be!

  • Having dedicated every moment of their lives to this, they were poor and homeless, with barely enough to eat. 💝

Christian leaders' accomplishments, since then:

  • Preached the Word correctly? No

    • Protestants brain-washed people into doing nothing, and just keep saying these words: born-again, saved by the blood, saved by Grace.

    • Catholics brain-washed their people into praying to Mary and saints to intercede with God. 

    • Calvinists brain-washed their people into "God already decided; it's all His will". Anything else is "works", "devil doctrines".

  • And the resulting number of miracles performed in the name of Jesus: 0

  • Number of dead people brought back to life: 0

  • Number of changes in God's realm: 2 - Horrible & blasphemous

    • The Pope seated Mary next to God in heaven as God's mother.

    • The Pope created a mini-Hell (aka, Purgatory) to process certain type sins after death and provide a path to heaven, that Jesus didn't/couldn't provide.

  • Any church leaders homeless or hungry? No, they improved some on that.

    • Protestants stressed the need to tithe 10% - Church leaders are Millionaires with private jets.

    • Catholic churches collected donations and sent to the Vatican. The Vatican's worth is in $trillions. It's an organized spiritual mafia.

 

Do you know who makes it to the top positions in the Vatican and protestant churches? It's usually those who are worldly aggressive stepping all over others, and business shrewd that can grow the church financially, which often equals to un-Godly! 

if you are truly seeking God and His kingdom, then leave all churches, and don't look back! Whether you like it or not, it's fast becoming the way of the future. Recognizing the fiasco and for lack of convincing answers to their good questions, young generations are losing interest and leaving in droves, to become atheist 😢. If your children became atheist after graduating college, I have the perfect link for you: Atheism.

And here is my link on alternatives to going to church, with complete details on how-to, and the consequences: Read the Bible & Research Online

I am a simple "Christian believer", not belonging to any church denomination. My only bias is towards God, no hidden motives. The Christian body of today is spiritually crippled, because it is formed of many contradicting denominations, and many are not “seeking God”; they're mostly businesses and social settings that people enjoy being at. But seeking of God is nowhere to be found!

God never intended for us to have all these contradicting denominations, but rather one Christian body of believers. What is God's view on all this? Here's what the Bible says:

Matthew 18:20 

Jesus said: "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them."

Matthew 16:18

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Notes: For Jesus, the "church" is the Christian body of genuine believers, to be led by someone like Peter filled with the Holy Spirit.  Who said that meant the Catholic church? The Catholic church leaders are filled with everything except the Holy Spirit; they hijacked Christianity!

The 2 or 3 gathering in His name would be one example of that church. If the 2 or 3 are gathered truly in His name, then God would not mislead them or give each group of 2 or 3 different interpretations of the scriptures. So only one explanation, leaders in church-denominations are not truly filled with the Holy Spirit. This is why people need to be on their guard, and not blindly follow their church. It is our eternity we're talking about; are you willing to take a chance with earthly loyalties? There is no "oops" later; no changing your mind after death!

Most people in church-denominations behave as in a war - "us and them", rather than acting like the Godly people they claim to be, loving one another, & truly seeking God! 

Protestants, Catholics, and Calvinists went far apart in their interpretations. Protestants don't do what Catholics do, and vv.. Is this Godly? They each have some good interpretations and some not so good. But each denomination's members are loyal to their church as if they got everything 100% right (sort of like Republicans and Democrats). 

The Deficiencies in Church-Denominations

Trying to be fair here, and listing some good for each. But mainly focusing on the deficiencies.

Protestants (incl. Baptists, Evangelical, etc.)

Good preaching from the Bible, but crucial truths are missing, examples:

  • Saved, nothing else to do - The bible is full of verses and parables about spiritual maturity, but all ignored by protestant churches! Why? To please people with the "do nothing" message. They stick to the high-level verses in the Bible, please the people, and collect donations. See section below for more shocking truths, Born Again?

  • Impossible to become unsaved - Protestants spend whole sermons on "once saved always saved", ignoring the many parables from Jesus about becoming rejected and sent to hell if you're not growing spiritually. Examples, John 15:6 "branches that wither and die", Luke 13:6 "cut the fig tree down", and Matthew 25:30 "cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness". See section below, Born Again?

  • Refuse to pray the Lord's Prayer- They utterly refuse to pray it in their sermons, and never encourage their members to pray it daily as Jesus commanded. Why? 3 reasons: (1) Their arrogant theologians decided Jesus meant it only for His Jewish disciples. They connected it to the manna from Moses, or some worthless explanation like that. They decided, and that's their final answer - But you stopped seeking God! Go back and look!! You messed up big on this one!!! (2) Because Catholics pray this prayer! And (3) because it's a burden to have to pray it daily; contradicting to their "do nothing" message. You're not covered by the blood, nor saved by grace; you're spiritually dead, unless you pray the Lod's Prayer daily - we need the Bread of life daily. See my page on The Lord's Prayer is Severely Misunderstood for eye-opening Bible references.

  • Must tithe the whole 10% - Protestants would spend a whole sermon on the subject of tithing; digging up verses all the way back from Leviticus and making sure that people tithe the full 10% of their income, not 9% or 8% because "they'd be stealing from God." But the Lord's Prayer? "Jesus meant that for the Jews." When in fact tithing was the one meant only for the Jews, for their 11 to 1 tribes' ratio! Tithing was later modified by Paul in the New Testament to: "Any gift is good" Philippians 4:14-17. See section below on Still Tithing 10%?  

  • Solely going by Paul's message as the one for the gentiles, but Protestants have missed the mark by a mile. Most brush off discrepancies between Jesus' message and Paul's as something like: "Jesus meant that for the Jews; Paul's message was for the gentiles who became Christians later..."  This is so dangerous on so many levels, disrespectful to God, and causing spiritual-death to so many people! Those churches missed the following scripture from Jesus after His resurrection talking to His Jewish disciples:

Matthew 28:17-20

... Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Notes: "...go to all nations... and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you." That is "teach all nations everything Jesus commanded His Jewish disciples". Any church who preaches otherwise, makes it no different than the Pharisees who crucified Jesus despite knowing He was the Messiah. All of Jesus teachings are for all people, not just the Jews. And Paul's teachings are a supplement to Jesus'. Any discrepancy between Paul's and Jesus' messages was because Paul's were high-level because the 4 books of the New Testament were not written yet! See my page on Jesus for Jews & Paul for Gentiles?

  • Giant Screens & Loud Music, But No Seeking of God - The focus shifted to big screens, loud music, and waving of hands. When instead it should be on seeking God and His kingdom. Even if we spend every moment of our lives seeking God in the scriptures, we'd barely scratch the surface. But churches went on with what pleases people!! And the sermon preaching is always yearly-rotating the same simple, safe, and unoffending subjects. No preaching on Jesus parables that contradict their theology!! Nor on "politically incorrect" subjects of today's culture; careful not to upset people and lose donations.

  • Immoral scandals - Like other denominations, lacking sound teaching, and not filled with the Holy Spirit, many Protestant church leaders are often in the news with some form of a public immorality. Here's today's.

Related Readings

Jesus for Jews & Paul for Gentiles?
Why didn't Paul Preach the Lord's Prayer?

Catholic Church (including Greek Orthodox)

They got the Nicene Creed right. They do pray the Lord's Prayer in their sermons. And the Eucharist is good, as a symbolic re-enactment of the last supper. Other than these, everything else they do is problematic! And even blasphemous!! The Catholic church and their side-kick the Orthodox church teachings, for hundreds of years, have been mostly unbiblical:

  • Little to no spiritual growing - The Catholic church is still running with their antiquated plan since the 3rd century: The church (its priests), supposedly study the Bible, then turn around and teach it to the people who are illiterate and can't read or understand the difficulty of the Bible for themselves." Maybe this was acceptable in 300AD, but now in 2022, I think we can do it ourselves and don't need bishops anymore. We have no excuse not to, except laziness. 

 

  • Minimum Bible reading in sermons - The usual Catholic sermon Bible reading time is nice stories from the new-testament. Followed by a message from the priest about "let's all be good and nice".

  • The Lord's Prayer not interpreted right - The Catholic church would not acknowledge "the Bread" = "the Bread of life". Obviously, because it makes it a DIY version of their Eucharist. Which would belittle their bishops' and priests' roles - if people can receive the Bread of life at home by directly praying to God, then they won't come to church and donate! Is the Catholic church thinking from God's perspective here? Or their financial perspective? see my page on The Lord's Prayer is Severely Misunderstood.

  • Purgatory is a result of misunderstanding some verses in the Bible: 1 John‬ ‭5:16-17‬ and ‭‭Mark‬ ‭3:28-30‬. They took these 2 references and extrapolated a whole doctrine; they called it "Purgatory" which is a kind of a mini-hell. All because Jesus used the term "will not be forgiven in the next age". But there is a good explanation of this in my page here: Purgatory?

  • Mary the mother of God?! as in higher level than God?! And can influence His decision like she did in the "Wedding at Cana"?! The ascension of Mary into heaven became Catholic doctrine in 1950, officially declared by Pope Pius XII. Continued in Mary the Mother of God? section below.

  • The Vatican - A hierarchy of people with glittery costumes and props - They're more concerned with levels and appearance than with substance, in-line with Jewish temples and Pharisees. ... instead of spending their time on seeking God in the scriptures to revisit their ungodly doctrines and see if just in case, ... just in case they messed up! But no, like the rest of churches, they created their niche and cookie-cutters, and are marching forward.

  • Wrong people in charge - The pope is constantly in the news making some political statements, announcing "sweeping reforms" (to please the people of course), and taking the church further away from God. These people at the Vatican since the 4th century cannot possibly be the ones that Jesus meant to hand the church to. It was true in the early church days when He handed it to Peter who witnessed His miracles, and was truly filled with the Holy Spirit. But it's been going downhill since, as human nature takes over. 

  • Pray to saints - So many Catholic people are also praying to a variety of humans they call "saints". Some get on their knees before the statue of so and so, and others lay face down at the feet of another. The Catholic church may claim this is not their teaching. Well the church must be doing something wrong; and certainly not doing anything to stop it. The church is careful not to upset people (where donations come from), but is ok with upsetting God!

  • Sex abuse scandals - The Catholic church over the years has been riddled with sex abuse scandals, almost daily stories in the news, here's today's. Catholics are quick to defend it as just news propaganda against the church. Well then what about this? The pope apologized in the news for the sex scandals here.

Related Reading

Purgatory?

Calvinists

"Watch out and be on your guard for the yeast of the" Calvinists. So I reused Jesus' words here (as in Matthew 16:6). I'm sure Jesus won't mind.

Giving a quick summary on this subject for those who don't know. Christianity today can be sliced in many different ways in terms of Bible interpretation, one example is the different church-denominations out there. But at a higher layer, there is a fork-in-the-road disagreement on one subject:

1. Calvinist View: We don't have a free-will choice. God elects who He wants to save based on His mysterious reasons. And therefore the blood of Jesus is only extended to those God already elected, not the whole population on earth.

2. Arminian View: We are given the choice to accept God's grace - accepting forgiveness of our sins through the blood of Jesus His Son.

  • Calvinist Doctrine Summary: Based on some verses in the Bible that contain these words "Elect" and "Predestined for His pleasure" and a few other verses that allude to them, the Calvinist church built a whole doctrine around that, ignoring the rest of the thousands of verses in the Bible that say otherwise, and preaching that God is the one who "elects" us based on His mysterious reasons. The Calvinist doctrine states that we have no say in it, no matter what we do. Which makes us mere robots; and which is the complete opposite of what the God we know, would do! The Calvinist doctrine, being human-limited-thinking at its best, cannot see that God is not in our space-time continuum. God is "I Am"; He foresaw us before creation. Romans 8:29 "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son". God foreknew our tendencies first, then destined second! I am very sad for the people following the Calvinist church. They are so misled.
    The line that separates Calvinists from Arminians is "free will". Calvinists say we don't have free will; God decides everything. Arminians say we have free will, and we decide to accept God's Grace or not. 

  • Do nothing, God already decided based on His mysterious reasons - Calvinists are even worse than the regular Protestants, in the "do nothing" message. They take it a step further to tell their members that no matter what they do, God already decided who will be saved and who won't. Calvinists don't encourage reading the Bible either. They do however encourage to read some books from famous Calvinist leaders!

   

  • God's election decision is Unconditional - ignoring the many Bible statements from Jesus/God saying things like, "if you love me, I will love you back..." and "if you obey my commands, you will be my people..." But Unconditional is the only way the Calvinist doctrine can hold. If God's predestination was conditional, their whole doctrine would crumble.

  • Scripture meaning manipulated - They also try to put words in the scripture's mouth; make it seem that "the Bible did not really intend to say 'that', but rather it meant to tell us 'this'..."  For example they teach: "any biblical reference to 'the whole world' actually means 'the whole world of the Elect', not the actual whole world." I can understand human incompetency can lead to misinterpretations, but this? I don't see how their church members can swallow it!  And sometimes the meaning is manipulated to accommodate certain psychological human behavior...You get the picture. They're in the same league with Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, etc..

  • Violent Internet Forums - I see thousands of violent internet forums and debates raging on between "Calvinists" and "Arminians". So much time and effort wasted. People treating this like a sports game; who will win? When instead, we should all be Christians, and direct our efforts to seeking God. But the competitive-sports-minded people, which we have ample supply of in this country, chose to run with it for the win. 

A Calvinist saw my post on one of the forums about the Lord's Prayer. He replied "I see you so arrogantly state this. What makes you think that God would change His plan because of your praying?" Whether the Calvinist church taught him this or not is irrelevant. The problem is, this is what their people think!!!

And in a separate forum a Calvinist was mistaken for an Arminian. He replied: "heavens I am no Arminian. the doctrine of human freewill is Satan's no.1 deception in my mind and the mainspring from which flows salvation by works and conditional salvation [probation] oh no no I am not an Arminian." I'm guessing this person left the Catholic church and became Calvinist, because of this: "conditional salvation probation", which is purgatory.

My thoughts: Wow! These people are possessed! Does "free will" automatically mean salvation by works? What are they indoctrinating them in those Calvinist churches? Are Arminians basing their salvation on "works"? Is declaring to accept God's grace "works"? Reading the Bible and praying is "works"? Actually the Calvinists calling Arminians devil-deceived is very similar to when the Pharisees kept telling Jesus He was demon-possessed: John 8:48, The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?

Related Reading

Predestination Demystified

 

Calling All Christians

Calling all Christians who genuinely care. Churches made a mockery of God's word!! Do you know what all this means? A partially good church is not good at all!! Preaching partial truth means people are lost; not saved! They are producing spiritually dead people!! They perverted God's word and made a mockery of it! millions of innocent people are spiritually lost. Which is fulfilling Jesus' "wide gate" verse in Matthew 7:13-14.

If you believe your church is great and want to stay with them, show them this page. Let them know they need to revisit their teaching to make it in-line with the Bible! Have them forward it to their theologians, Vatican, and seminary colleges. Or simply separate from them.

If by miracle of God churches agreed to change, here's the biblical way

Protestants:

  • The Lord's Prayer prayed daily with the "bread" = "Bread of life" for forgiveness. Then you become saved! First meet God's requirement, then do your other fluff.

  • Mature spiritually by seeking God in the Bible - Your sermon needs to change from 90% hymns/other, 10% Bible reading, to 90% Bible reading, 10% hymns / other. Sure you'll lose people, but you'll gain God. The ones that leave are in it for the social and entertainment aspect of it, not Godly people.

  • Downsize your seminary colleges, get rid of your theology professors. They're not Godly; how could they have missed all these truths!!

  • No more pushing for 10% tithing! Any gift is good as the apostle Paul said. Get rid of your Business Development people. THIS IS A HOUSE OF GOD!!

Catholics:

  • The Lord's Prayer prayed daily with the "bread" = "Bread of life" for forgiveness. And stop praying the rosary!!

  • Mature spiritually by seeking God in the Bible - Your sermon needs to change from 1% Bible reading, 99% repetitive stuff stand-up sit-down incense, to 90% Bible reading,10% other stuff. Sure you'll lose people, but you'll gain God. The ones that leave are in it for the tradition's aspect of it, not Godly people.

  •  The pope  should reverse all unbiblical doctrines, starting with "Mary the mother of God" and "Purgatory"! And stop the unbiblical "canonization of saints"! All true believers who pray the Lord's Prayer daily are righteous in the eyes of God and are called saints. Abolish the process and follow this list.

Calvinists:

  • The Lord's Prayer prayed daily with the "bread" = "Bread of life" for forgiveness. Then you become predestined! 

  • Mature spiritually by seeking God in the Bible because if not you can become un-predestined!  "pre" and "post" are for humans - God is outside of time; He sees it all always!

  • Ignore your "respected Calvinist book authors"! READ ONLY THE BIBLE!!

  • TULIP? We can't make a "cookie-cutter" out of God's scripture! We have to keep seeking God, learning, and maturing.

Churches Are Businesses

  They call themselves non-profit, but in reality they're high-profit. It is acceptable to collect tithes and donations from the people, but only when teaching sound doctrines from the Bible. Not when misleading them!

John 21:17

Jesus asked a third time, “Simon son of John, do you love Me?” ...Yes, Lord,” he answered, “You know I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Feed My sheep.” 

But churches are not feeding the sheep with proper truths. And still charging them tithes and donations. 

Shortly after the disciples and Paul's generation died off, churches' spiritual quality went downhill. Not surprising; they even went downhill in-between Paul's visits to those churches in his days: Galatians 1:6, I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel.

The real objective of churches is money, not God, as evident in these public facts:

  • Seminary college graduates find high-paying jobs at churches.

  • Bankers estimate the Vatican's wealth between $10 billion and $15 billion and some think it's $ trillions.

  • Catholic churches around the world send money to the Vatican! It's an organized spiritual mafia. Sure the Vatican has charity programs, but bankers estimate those to be "a drop in the bucket" compared to the church's wealth. Btw, if you check public records, you'll find that the Vatican's wealth doubled shortly after their 1950 official announcement of Mary's ascension to heaven! It's a business - please the people and collect more donations.

  • Catholic church doctrines keep changing according to what people like to hear, instead of truly seeking God.

  • Nobody is Seeking God! How else can we explain why no one is truly filled with the Holy Spirit anymore? You ask, "how do you know no one is?" where are the miracles? Truly filled with the Holy Spirit = miracles, as in the days of Paul and the disciples.  Here's the reason why: Many church leaders today are millionaires. This is usually the objective of theology graduates. 

 

It's time for people to be vigilant about their spiritual status and their eternity. And not rely on churches. There is no oops later. When facing God at judgement, claiming it's the church's fault will not fly. The Bible is full of verses that point to personal responsibility to mature spiritually, or face spiritual death, which leads to hell. We need to learn the truth and grow spiritually. How do we do that:

- Seek God by reading the Bible (or hearing), as Jesus instructed in the Sermon on the Mount.

- Seek His Righteousness by praying the Lord’s Prayer daily as Jesus instructed. And meaning it correctly: the daily Bread is the body of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. Why daily? Because Jesus said so in the prayer. And, you don’t have to chew on actual bread like some churches advise. You can spiritually receive God’s Bread of life by genuinely saying the Lord's Prayer. 

Do you know this verse from Jesus? Luke 9:60 “Leave the dead to bury their own dead. But as for you, go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” And along those lines I say, let the dead attend church with the dead. But as for you, genuine Christian believer, leave the churches and seek the kingdom of God by studying the scriptures with your family and friends, without letting the church poison your knowledge. See my page on what to do instead here: Read the Bible & Research OnlineI assure you God will be with you and will guide you.

Still tithing 10%?

Should be more like 0.01% today. The 10% tithing was advised by God in the days of Moses when it was an 11 to 1 ratio of tribes. Of the 12 tribes of Israel, one tribe, the Levites was the priestly tribe who did not get a land inheritance and instead was given 10% of goods from the other 11 tribes.

 

This was because the Levites had a tough job to execute hundreds of requirements in the temple of God daily, and had no time to work the land, God advised the other 11 tribes to give a tenth of their produce to the Levite tribe. Today's church, in comparison does nothing, except preach on Sunday what their predecessors preached. And is still pressing their members to tithe the full 10%. Also in comparison, the ratio of people-to-church-ministers today is more like 1,000 to 1, vs., the Jews was 11 to 1.

 

So a more fair tithing number today would be 0.01% of income, and this is more than enough for the inefficient preaching they do. Donate the rest of the 10% to charity.

Closing Notes

This new reality of how to be real Christian believers may seem strange to you at first. This is because churches have brainwashed us into thinking differently for years. Today's Churches teach what previous generations of ministers taught. Not many study the Bible to seek God for themselves. "Why re-invent the wheel" is the general view. But I urge you to keep looking at these Bible references on this website and studying them. You'll see it clearly.

Request from your church to preach the biblical truths revealed in this website, correctly. Be loyal to God, not to your church, to your favorite preacher, to your denomination, or to your ancestors. 

Old English?

Please stop "old English". It is NOT the language of the Bible; it's a tradition. Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek were the original languages of the Bible. Why are there churches today still teaching in "old English"? This is how you get the young generations who speak plain English to completely miss the message, and become uninterested. It is about getting the meaning of the scriptures to the people. Not about fake traditions and formalities. Many young people are misunderstanding the message, and fleeing Christianity altogether. They're flocking to atheism. Check the latest news on religious statistics.

 
 

Mary The Mother Of God?

God accomplished His redemption plan through His son Jesus, and made it available in the scripture to all people. Why are we going in all kinds of wrong directions? God's redemption plan is very clear, and completely sufficient - pray the Lord's Prayer daily, as Jesus commanded, for the forgiveness of your sins and receive God's blessings and eternal life. Why are we going to other places; praying to other humans and annoying God?

Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to Mary! In fact it says the exact opposite. The Bible actually says don't look at Mary, look at God. Yes it says exactly that, here:

Luke 11:27-28

As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”

He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

It is clear here that Jesus was annoyed - "Blessed rather...".  Because throughout His ministry on earth he kept pointing people to God and to the spiritual side of things, and they insisted on dwelling on humans and the earthly side! And here we are today - we still don't get it.

Clarifying The Blessed Mary's Role in The Bible

  • The blessed Mary is the mother of Jesus the human. She is not the mother of Jesus the son of the Triune God: Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.

  • The mother-son relationship between Mary and Jesus ended after His death on the cross. Then it became a human-God relationship like the rest of humans, but with special consideration to Mary similar to prophets and disciples.

  • Jesus did not come into existence when Mary gave birth to Him. Before Mary was born, Jesus is "I Am".

John 8:58

"Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."  

Please don't misunderstand, this is not about bashing Mary. I have the utmost respect for the Blessed Mary. I know this is a much debated subject, and I respect all people. And no I'm not targeting Mary and the Catholic church. I'm actually exposing the inefficient unbiblical teaching of all Protestants much worse here Born Again?, and here Predestination Demystified.

 

Biblical references are the official truth about the way to God. And there is nothing there about the blessed Mary in relation to the way to God. Only one mediator, not two: 1Timothy 2:5: “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.”

God saw that Mary was a genuine believer, good-hearted, and pure. He called her blessed among women, and gave her the most honorable role - deliver Jesus to earth in order to accomplish God's redemption plan

Before coming to earth through His birth from Mary, Jesus was with God for eternity past (John 1:1-4). He came to earth for the sole purpose of dying on the cross to accomplish God's redemption plan. Jesus was not unfairly crucified and killed by the Jews; He did not come to this earth to have a family and raise children! Although the Jews did mean it for bad, God meant it for good in order to bring salvation to all people on earth. And this is the sole main objective of the Christian religion. Why are people doing this to themselves and to the blessed Mary?

 

The Pope Seated Mary Next to God in Heaven

Jesus gave the authority to Peter, to attend to the spiritual needs of the people - Jesus told Peter: "feed My sheep" John 21:15-17. He trusted Peter with making sure that His teachings and commands reach people throughout the world, and even perform miracles in His name. But He did not instruct him to create "New-Testament Part 2"!! Or make changes in the structure of God and His heaven! Converting people from humans to gods is not the business of the Vatican. Let's look again at what Jesus told Peter:

Matthew 16:19

I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will have been loosed in heaven.”

But Jesus also said the exact same sentence later and clarified how to use this power:

Matthew 18:15-19

If your brother sins against you, go tell him his fault, between you... If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven

Notes: It becomes obvious when we look at the before and after verses that this whole binding and loosening was about people relations on earth and attending to their needs. Meaning whatever the church determines, related to people's affairs, will be approved in heaven. This does not include the power to make Mary a Deity and seat her next to God the Father!

The Catholic church and the Greek Orthodox church have been misleading people since their creation around the 4th century. Abusing their powers and making announcements unauthorized by God. The biggest unbiblical and misleading doctrine was "the belief in the ascension of Mary into heaven, as the mother of God". It became Catholic doctrine in 1950 when Pope Pius XII officially declared it. The Greek Orthodox church had already made similar official declaration earlier.

Is Mary the mother of God?

The term itself is blasphemous. Our infinite triune God, Father Son & Holy Spirit, has no mother. The Bible always referred to Mary as the mother of Jesus, never as the mother of God. To include Mary in the Trinity is like saying our God has now become Father, mother, Son, & Holy Spirit? Even the Catholic church is not saying that! And therefore a big confusion to young generations. No wonder they're flocking to Atheism! Check public statistics.

 

Mary was last mentioned in the Bible when the Holy Spirit came upon her (and many others) on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). After that, we hear nothing else about Mary in the Bible. Then Pope Pius decided to do a Part-II of the Bible to please people, which meant more donations to the church!

For those wanting the Blessed Mary to be the mother of God so badly, there is a harsh reality for them in the Bible:

Luke 11:27-28

As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”

He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Matthew 12:46-50

While Jesus was still speaking to the crowds, His mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to Him. Someone told Him, “Look, Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to You.”  But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers?”  Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.

Notes: When we look at biblical references like these, we may think even Jesus did not acknowledge His mother, and was insensitive to her. But He was not! He was just very focused on God and His plan to provide salvation to people, including to Mary. And Mary herself saw this clearly later, on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2:1-4.

The blessed Mary is a human, and is dead and buried like all other prophets and disciples who died. She's not alive in the flesh in heaven today seated next to Jesus! She cannot hear any prayers; she’s not Deity nor a mediator between people and God. Where in the Bible does it say any of these things? You can only stretch the "wedding at Cana" so much. Jesus is the only mediator, 1Timothy 2:5: “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” And according to the Bible (not to the pope), He is alive in the flesh today just as He ascended into heaven 2,000 years ago, and is seated at the right-hand of God the father.

 

Please look for yourself, and not just rely on the church. Look close for yourself, you'll be shocked. Because what I have uncovered here, is dangerous biblical facts that make the Vatican a mere money-collecting social organization blaspheming against God!

Elizabeth & Mary are Pregnant. And The Wedding at Cana

One of the biblical references used to justify all this is, Luke 1:41-43 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?  Beautiful scripture! Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and her baby (John the Baptist) leaped in her womb. Mary here was carrying Jesus in her womb, and Elizabeth called her "the mother of my Lord". She did not say "the mother of my God". She said Lord. Take a look at all public books and all the way back in historic books. The term "Lord" does not exclusively mean God. It is mostly used with people of status - a high-priest, a bishop, a king, etc.. To the people around Him, Jesus was a human teacher or rabbi, but was called Lord throughout the new testament. Again according to the Bible, God is triune for eternity past and eternity future - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And He did not change based on Elizabeth's statement, to become a quadrune god - mother, father, son, and holy spirit.

Another misunderstood biblical reference:

John 2:1-5

On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples. When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you."

Notes: As in, "Jesus didn't want to help them, but Mary forced His hand; she told Him what to do and He did it". Every Catholic person I know points to this as the undisputable evidence of the higher authority of Mary over Jesus. My goodness! This is worse than the Calvinists. When people develop a mental block, it stays with them all the way to hell. So throw the whole Bible away? And use these 2 references here to secure your eternity?

Some are in it Because Mary Represents the Caring Woman and Mother

But if they only knew God, they would have changed their ways!  God is "I Am"; He is not male nor female. God transcends the human concept of sex. These attributes are for humans. God is our parent representing both genders and He is far more loving and caring than any human can be. He chose to be called "Father" but He is both parents, as clear in these verses:

 Genesis 1:27

God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 

Isaiah 66:13

'As one whom his mother comforts, so I will comfort you; you shall be comforted in Jerusalem.

Isaiah 49:15

'Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even she may forget, yet I will not forget you.'  

So all those in need of a female Godly figure to turn to “because she understands women better” or "because she's like a mother to everyone", and who went on and gave the blessed Mary more roles than God intended, need to stop that. The blessed Mary herself would chastise them severely for this, and would ask them to turn to God!

2Timothy 4:3-4

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”

And Some Pray to Mary Because "God is a Male Chauvinist"

In today's culture some people may think (inwardly), God must be a chauvinist, because there is no female representation in heaven, and because of biblical verses like these:

Ephesians 5:23

"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior."

1Corinthians 14:34

Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.

1Corinthians 11:8-9

For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

1Timothy 2:11-15

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

And due to the unfortunate male/female relationships on this earth, women can become resentful and push the elevation of Mary into places unintended by God. God is not a Chauvinist. It is the earthly evil that drove people to think earthly, not spiritually, and not see God clearly. 

The human relationships problem really started with men. God meant for man to be, lovingly and responsibly, the head of the family. But most men just abuse their privileges. The harsh reality is that we live in a male-chauvinistic world, which produced bitter women over time causing unnecessary actions. One can't blame women for this; they are the victims. The blame ultimately goes to the devil who has a strong footing in this world. This is a result of people not doing the right things towards God, which has been fueling the devil's firm-grip on earth! And this is why bad things happen on earth, including to innocent babies!

God is not a male chauvinist. The Bible did not say women should not go to college, or cannot get a job equal to men! The Bible only described spiritual activities in relation to God - God gave the role to men; not to be misunderstood as demeaning to women. In the same way in the Jewish days God gave the priestly role to the tribe of Levi. Only a Levite could enter the inner room where God had a presence, if any non-Levite entered that room he would die instantly. Not because Levi was any better than his 11 brothers. It was a God choice. Clearly nothing chauvinistic about it. 

And we can't talk about chauvinism, without also talking about feminism! The reality is, feminism is the main driver for Mary's ungodly roles. But in the end, both chauvinism and feminism are the work of the devil. And humans when not true Christians will succumb to his lies.

No need for a female representation in heaven. Please stop this; it's blasphemous and producing generations of spiritually dead people. Doing the right things towards God is not difficult. His salvation plan for us is completely sufficient. No added actions are needed. All we have to do is seek God by reading the Bible, and pray the Lord's Prayer once a day, with the "bread" meaning the spiritual Bread of life that God gives, the body of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. God will receive you with pleasure no matter what you've done in your past. And will bless you beyond your expectations.

Who is the Woman in Heaven with a Crown of Twelve Stars on her Head?

She's not Mary. Because a few verses down in Revelation 12, it talks about this woman's other offspring, which is a major contradiction to the Catholic church, and their self-declared "perpetual virginity of Mary".

Mary is not the "queen of heaven". Mary is the "Blessed Mary", as God called her. Nothing else different about her in the Bible. Little do those Catholics calling Mary the "queen of heaven" know that the old-testament Bible describes the "queen of heaven" as an abhorrent detestable pagan god. Jeremiah 44:16-27 stated that God severely punished those Jews driven by the women at the time, who insisted on worshiping this queen of heaven. Don't take my word for it. Read Jeremiah 44:16-27 for yourself. And also here:

Jeremiah‬ ‭7:18‬

The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger.

Obviously the Catholic church had scoured the Bible in desperate search of any scripture that might remotely hint at Mary as anything more that fit their agenda, to please the people. Revelation 12 was all they could find, and they latched on to it. But looking at the rest of the verses in Revelation 12 reveals a different woman. It's the nation of Israel; the twelve tribes of Israel (crown of 12 stars). In the old-testament, the nation of Israel was often symbolized as a woman, example Ezekiel 16.

Praying the Rosary, or to "Saints"

The Bible says pray to God only! Any added prayers to humans, Mary, saints, etc. is a blasphemy, a sin. You're not adding anything by also praying to humans. You're just annoying God! If you spend time reading the Bible, you'll clearly see that He despises praying to anyone other than Him. And that includes Mary, who is not His mother!!

Look in the Bible. These verses clearly say not to pray to people:

Acts 10:25-26

As Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet to worship him. But Peter helped him up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”

Acts 14:11-15

After Paul raised a man from the dead: "When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, “The gods have come down to us in human form!” Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes because he was the chief speaker... But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting: “Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them.

John 5:43-44

Jesus: "43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44 How can you believe since you accept glory from one another but do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?"

Notes: Jesus expressing frustration over how people love to elevate each other, instead of God. Throughout His life on earth, He kept pointing them to God, but they kept praising each other. Example ...the woman in the crowd calling out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”

He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” Luke 11:27-28

Closing Notes

If the Catholic church had focused on teaching the scripture properly, example, pray the Lord's Prayer daily with the "bread" meaning Jesus' body for the forgiveness of sins, and encouraged people to seek God by reading the Bible, we would not have gotten to this blasphemous state today, with millions of spiritually-dead people! People would have seen clearly, fell in love with God's personality, and learned that His redemption plan was the main objective of the Christian religion, instead of their emotions-driven praying to Mary.  

If the ascension of Mary to heaven was true, then God would not have left people in the dark about it! He would not have left such an unprecedented event out of the Bible. It is so unlike God's personality to only give this information to Pope Pius to announce it!! At a minimum Isaiah or one of the prophets would have prophesied something about it. This is what the Bible said:

‭‭Amos‬ ‭3:7‬

“Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.”

No hint of this anywhere in the Bible!! This is a huge unbiblical mistake! It puts the Vatican in the same league with other unbiblical churches like Calvinists, Jehovah's witnesses, and Mormons. So Mary is now seated at the right-hand of God with her son Jesus?!! In the highest heaven, the unapproachable light? (Timothy 6:16: who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever.) Meaning Mary transformed from human to Deity? This is even contradicting to the Catholic church's own teachings! Why then is Mary not in "In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit"? And why is she not in the Nicene Creed? Are we to expect an updated version of the Nicene creed to be issued by the Vatican?

Born Again?

If you are not maturing spiritually, you may no longer be born-again! 

 

Even if you're serving in church, teaching Sunday school (the same incomplete high-level messages), listening to Christian music, or singing hymns in church on Sundays. None of these are spiritual maturity; none are fruit!

John 15:1-7

Jesus said: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit

Romans 11:16-17

Paul said: ...if the root is holy, so are the branches... If some of the branches have been broken off...

Note: you could be a branch that became broken off!

Here's the order of our spiritual transformation:

   1. Birth of the flesh, first birth.

   2. Birth of the spirit, born-again.

   3. Spiritual maturity

Many people lack the 3rd item, spiritual maturity

Because, most churches don't preach it. In fact most Protestant churches teach "you cannot possibly become unsaved". But the Bible clearly states otherwise. It is our eternity we're talking about; there will not be a 2nd chance if we miss it here!  Herd mentality is not the way to God; "the narrow gate" is the way to God.

How do we mature spiritually?

  • Read the Bible always. God is in these Scriptures. This is how we "seek Him" and get to know Him. The more we read and understand, the more He reveals Himself to us. And this new knowledge we gain, is one form of fruit production. The other, and more advanced form, is perform miracles in Jesus' name.

  • Pray the Lord's Prayer daily, and mean it correctly - the "daily Bread" is the spiritual Bread of life, the body of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. So that we're always in perfect fellowship with God. This fulfils Jesus' desire for us to remain in Him, and Him in us. And thus equates to healthy branches.

  • Love - Wholeheartedly love and worship God. And genuinely love all people.

In today's 1st-world-countries, most people are living in luxury with plenty of resources and spare time available to them to multiply their "talents", and help their spiritual growth. There is no excuse, except laziness. Relying completely on the church for our spiritual needs is not the way to grow spiritually. In most churches today, human-nature have taken over, and they veered off the path of the original Christian church created by the disciples of Jesus when they were truly filled with the Holy Spirit.

Here are some verses from Paul that not many churches teach about:

Romans 11:16-17

...if the root is holy, so are the branches... If some of the branches have been broken off...

Notes: Clearly this is Paul's version of Jesus' "vine and branches" verses. So Paul too talks about "branches broken off", similar to branches that wither and die, in Jesus' version!! A further confirmation of the possibility of becoming unsaved. And this one is for those who like to hear it from Paul himself :)

Romans 11:23

And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 

Notes: And look at this!! If those people who became unsaved, return later and truly seek God, then God will "graft them back in"!! God gives us a lifetime to truly seek Him and grow spiritually. As long as you're still alive you can fix it. But after death it's too late, even if you try blaming the church for it. Exactly as described in the Parable of the Ten Virgins in Matthew 25:1-13.

Many people are lazy. They love the message of "do nothing". "If the church is saying it, and the church knows everything, then we're all set".  Not!  The reality is, many protestant churches only preached off of a few high-level verses that said that, and ignored thousands of pages in the bible that elaborated on those verses. While those verses are true at a high-level, crucial details are missing - which are in our daily commitment to God exhibited in us seeking God and His Righteousness. Otherwise, we’re not truthful about our claim of believing, and therefore not producing fruit!

Every verse in the Bible that says in one sentence something like "believe in Jesus and you're saved...", is meant as a high-level statement. Thousands of other verses and parables clearly elaborate on how to do that.

Singing hymns in church on Sundays is admirable, but that's the icing on the cake. You've missed the cake altogether and focused on the icing!!

There are many references in the Bible about our need to mature spiritually in order to remain "saved". Many churches will tell you, you "cannot possibly become unsaved - once saved, always saved". The truth is, the Bible says otherwise. It says you can become unsaved:

John 15:1-7

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.

Notes: After becoming a branch on the Vine, that is after becoming born-again, if no spiritual maturity over time, you may become "a branch cut off" or "wither and die" (spiritually). To remain saved we have to remain in Jesus, and Him in us (by, at a minimum, praying the Lord's Prayer daily and meaning it correctly).

Hebrews 6:1

Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity

2Corinthians 13:11

Finally, brothers and sisters, rejoice. Become mature,...

Luke 13:6-9

Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree growing in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’ “‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’”

Notes: "Fruit" in this parable is spiritual maturity, as in seek God by reading the Bible and praying the Lord's Prayer daily. God is patient, and waits a long time before giving up on us. But He would give up on us eventually if no spiritual maturity. But careful, Jesus warns us in other parables about "how long God waits for us", example in the Parable of the Ten Virgins in Matthew 25:1-13.

Accepting this biblical-fact of the need for spiritual maturity by seeking God through reading the Bible often, and the praying of the Lord’s Prayer daily, may seem strange at first. This is because most churches have brainwashed people for years into thinking, any doing = works; “do nothing, nothing at all, just mark the front of your Bible with the date you were saved”. And the Catholic church: "priests read the Bible; you don't need to", and "pray to other humans". 

God will not excuse you for not knowing to do the right thing to multiply your "talents". Using the excuse of "...it's the church's fault they taught us wrong..." will not fly with God. Download any audio-enabled app to your device, and listen to the Bible always. It comes in many languages and versions. Then research difficult verses online. God will guide you to answers when you're truly seeking Him. And of course be careful with the fluff and misleading info on the internet.

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