End Times

Summary: My view on this is, God purposely kept the complete picture from us, and only gave us some hints and pieces about it in the Bible. I'm sure He plans to reveal more to us in His timing. But in the mean time, we just continue seeking Him in the scriptures, and praying for more wisdom. Although we can find hundreds of descriptions of end-times on the internet (mostly websites with profit-generating ads), they're extracted from the same Bible references, but with added variety of people speculative views. 

 

First summarizing some facts on the Rapture, deducted from Bible references:

  • What is the rapture? It is when genuine Christian believers both dead and alive are removed from earth and joined with Jesus in the clouds before the start of painful end-times events on earth. Note, only true-Christian-believers will be removed in the rapture, not all so called "Christians"!   Who are the "true Christian Believers"? They're those who's sins are forgiven. They know the commands of Jesus and keep them. See section below on The Lord's Prayer. If you're thinking, "what commands? I'm covered by the blood", or I pray the rosary always, you'd better see The Lord's Prayer section.

  • Although the actual word "rapture" is not in the Bible, it is a good one-word description of the events prophesied in the Bible.

  • The rapture is likely the next major biblical event to take place according to the Bible. But the rapture has been the next expected event since the last biblical event - the death of Jesus on the cross. 

  • No one knows when the rapture will occur except God the Father. Therefore it could be tomorrow or 1,000 years from now. 

  • Today's events such as Covid and the war in Ukraine are relatively insignificant compared to similar events in the not so distant past - World Wars 1 and 2, Smallpox in early 1900s (300 million people dead), the Spanish flu of 1918 (21 million dead in 4 months), etc.. Again there's no call to panic at this particular time!

  • The rest of the prophesied end-times events (shown in the section below) will continue on earth after the rapture. The end-times horror will not be attended by true Christian believers because they would be raptured from earth earlier.

  • This includes the fact that true Christian believers will be raptured before the appearance of the antichrist. It is possible those alive just before the rapture may see him before he starts his evil ministry. 

  • There are several rapture-like events that already took place in the Bible. These are very good parallels that we can learn from:

    • Noah and his family removed before the flood. Which was actually referred to as a parallel to the rapture in Matthew 24:37-39.​

    • Lot and his family removed before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. 

    • Mary, Joseph, and baby-Jesus removed before King Herod ordered the killing of babies under 2 years old.

 

So what should we do to always be ready for the rapture whether dead or alive at the time?

  • It is not about who is not sinning!!   It is about who has their sins forgiven!!! 

  • While not sinning is our calling, we should genuinely repent when we do, and ask God for forgiveness.

  • To always remain in the state of "sins forgiven", Jesus gave us the perfect daily prayer - The Lord's Prayer (see section below with crucial new explanation). As long as we genuinely pray this prayer daily with the Bread meaning the spiritual Bread of life, Jesus Himself for the forgiveness of sins, we will always be ready for the Rapture.

  • It's sad to hear so many churches don't know what Christianity is about! Teaching people that the only way to make it into the rapture is to stop sinning! Church leaders pressuring people with harsh requirements they themselves cannot keep! See Time to Leave the Churches (section below) about the incompetency of churches.

What Does the Bible Say about End-Times?

The Bible says no one knows when the end-times will come. And therefore no one knows which generation of people will be alive during the rapture. There are several Bible chapters that describe this subject in sometimes seemingly contradicting ways: The books of Daniel, John, Matthew, Mark, and Revelation. In Matthew Chapter 24 for example, Jesus' message sounded like believers might have to endure some of the wrath. But in other books Paul in1-Thessalonians says it differently. None are crystal clear; obviously God intended it this way for His reasons. This does not mean the Bible is not trustworthy, but rather that God wanted to give some hints about it without giving the complete picture.

For those reasons, I am declaring a disclaimer that the theories on this page are just that, theories based on the bits and pieces gathered from these Bible references, particularly the order of the timeline below. So I am mostly staying away from lengthy speculations and the different scenarios you find on many websites, and instead only highlighting some good points to give us an idea.

Jesus said in Matthew-24 that no one knows the day or hour except God the Father. And compared that time to when Noah and his family were removed before the flood:

Matthew 24:36-41

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

 

Shortly before the above reference in Matthew, His disciples had started the discussion by asking about end times:

Matthew 24:3-8

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

Then Paul said in 1-Thessalonians that we will not suffer any wrath, but will be raptured prior:

1 Thessalonians 5:1-4

Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 

1 Thessalonians 5:9

For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 

So what does all this mean to us? We can fairly say that the rapture will occur before any wrath or tribulation. But I am not going for the 100% sure, because of scripture from Jesus in the rest of Matthew Chapter 24. Example this reference saying we may endure part of the beginning of wrath:

Matthew 24:9-13

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 

What Is The Rapture?

For us today, the rapture is the prophesied event likely to happen next. The best description of the rapture is from Paul in 1-Thessalonians:

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17

14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

Notes: In other words at the rapture when the trumpet sounds, first the dead true-Christian-believers will rise (not all the dead, and not all the dead so called Christians! only the dead true-Christian-believers), then they along with the living true-Christian-believers at the time, will meet up with Jesus in the clouds. One cool aspect of the rapture is that those alive at the time will never experience death. 

When will this happen? No one knows the day or the hour. It may be tomorrow, or 500 years from now! 

Jesus in Matthew-24 said something similar:

Matthew 24:30-31

“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

What we should be doing to be ready, is focus on being spiritually ready, meaning obey Jesus' commands. Are we ready? If we've been following the churches' teachings, then no we're not ready!! See my links on Time to Leave the Churches and The Lord's Prayer is Severely Misunderstood.

 

So how do we make sure we are ready for the rapture? Become right with God, like this:

  • Pray the Lord's Prayer daily, with the "Bread" meaning the spiritual Bread of life, Jesus Himself for the forgiveness of sins.

  • Wholeheartedly seek God and His righteousness, by reading the Bible often.

  • Genuinely love all people of all origins, skin color, and financial status, as you love yourself.

Another Rapture Perspective

The question of "when will the rapture occur?" can also be answered in a different way:

To any living person the rapture is less than a 100 years away. How is that? The day we die, we fast-forward to the rapture. Paul said "in a twinkling of an eye" - so from the point-of-view of the dead person, the moment they die, they instantly reopen their eyes to the sound of the trumpet.

I'm 65 years old now in 2022. So for me the rapture is less than 30 years or so away.

The Anti-Christ

There are several references in the Bible that talk about the antichrist. Pointing to some of them here. This passage below says the Holy Spirit is currently holding back the lawless one (aka the antichrist). Then there will come a time when He won't hold him back anymore. Meaning a time when no one on earth will be filled with the Holy Spirit anymore. Then the anti-Christ will appear in the world:

2 Thessalonian 2:7-9

For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie...

Notes: One obvious time is, after the church is raptured, then the Holy Spirit ("the one who holds it back") is no longer inside any of the people remaining on earth. If they didn't disappear in the rapture, then those people were not true believers whose sins were not forgiven, and therefore no Holy Spirit inside them. 

Other parts of the Bible talk about a satanically empowered man who will gain worldwide control with promises of peace (Revelation 13:1; Daniel 9:27). He will be aided by another man, called the false prophet, who heads up a religious system that requires worship of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:20).  The internet is full of speculations about the antichrist - he will be a Muslim, he will be Jew, he will be a gentile, he's already here, he's a spirit not a physical person, etc.. They're just speculations; no one really knows.

And the number 666 in the bible that Hollywood made movies about, is completely misunderstood. It is the number 6, emphasized 3 times, as was the emphasizing tradition in old days. And 6 in the Bible represents the human (or the unbelieving human). 7 represents God. So the antichrist, would be an unbelieving human with a number representation of 6.

A Possible Timeline of End-Times Events

There are several references in the Bible that talk about end-times events. These references have a lot of similarities between them, and correlate in some ways. Starting from all the way back in the old testament book of Daniel, through the new testament, and to the book of Revelations. But none are crystal-clear, with questionable timeline sequence - which part was before? and which was after?... Obviously God intended it this way. He chose not to give us the full description; He gave us some hints, to be clarified in the future at His chosen time.

 

And so, with room for speculation, you'll find a variety of opinions out there, particularly relating to the order of things. The list below shows one possible scenario of the main events related to end times, gathered from reading the Bible and researching on the internet.

 

Note that true believers will only experience the first event on the list, the rapture. After that they will be with Jesus throughout the rest of the list. It is possible we'll be back to earth with Jesus during the "1,000-year reign of Christ" towards the bottom of the list? Because of this reference: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 ...And so we will be with the Lord forever. 

 

The further down the list we get, the more vague the information becomes. This means God would provide clarification at His chosen timing.

Again, this is a best-guess timeline from the hints God gave us in the Bible:

  • The rapture. From our perspective today, this is the likely next event in the end-times timeline. 

  • The Antichrist appears on the scene. After the church is raptured, the Holy Spirit ("the one who holds it back") is no longer inside any of the people remaining on earth: 2 Thessalonians 2:7: ... And then the lawless one will be revealed. Then a satanically empowered man will gain worldwide control with promises of peace (Revelation 13:1; Daniel 9:27). He will be aided by another man, called the false prophet, who heads up a religious system that requires worship of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:20).

  • The tribulation. 7 years in which God’s judgment is poured out on unbelievers who's sins have not been forgiven (Revelation 6:1–16:21). 

  • The Battle of Gog and Magog. A great army from the north, in alliance with several other countries from the Middle East and Africa, attacks Israel (Ezekiel 38–39). Note, this happens after the Rapture. So all the noise on the internet and social media about the Russia - Ukraine war and the associated middle-eastern coalition etc. as the beginning of Gog and Magog, is not inline with the Bible prophesies. True Christian believers will not be here during the Gog and Magog war.

  • The Battle of Armageddon. At the end of the 7-yr tribulation, Jesus returns with the armies of heaven (Mark 14:62). (Revelation 19:11–21). The Antichrist and the false prophet are captured and thrown into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20).

  • Jesus' judgment of the nations. Christ will judge the survivors of the tribulation, separating the righteous from the wicked as “sheep” and “goats” (Matthew 25:31–46). (It is thought that at this time the Old Testament believers will be raised from the dead.) The righteous will enter the millennial kingdom, and the wicked will be cast into hell.

  • The 1,000-year reign of Christ. Jesus will rule the world, and Jerusalem will be the capital. This will be a 1,000-year period of peace and prosperity on earth (Revelation 20) and (Isaiah Chapters 60, 61, & 62).  Satan will be bound and held in a bottomless pit for that 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1–3).

  • the Great White Throne Judgement. Aka Judgement Day, Revelation 20-11. All those in hell will be brought forth, and all the wicked from all eras of history will be resurrected to stand before God in a final judgment (Revelation 20:11–15) and (Daniel 12:1-13). The verdicts are read, and all of sinful humanity who's sins are not forgiven is cast into the lake of fire.

  • New heaven & new earth. God creates a new heaven and a new earth, Revelation 21:1-4

Related reading

What Happens to us When We Die

God's Perspective

 

Related Sections on How to Be Ready for the Rapture

Need the Bread of Life Daily to Always Remain Righteous in the Eyes of God - The Lord's Prayer

Praying the Lord's Prayer daily as Jesus commanded, will keep you ready for the rapture. We need the spiritual Bread of Life daily to always remain righteous in the eyes of God, receive His blessings, and truly be saved. 

Question: Why did Jesus tell us to pray His prayer for the forgiveness of our sins daily? If we're covered by the blood, saved by grace, born again, and predestined, nothing else to do, why did He say to ask the Father for the forgiveness of our sins every day? 

Answer: Our sins are forgiven only on a daily basis and when asked properly as Jesus commanded. Covered by the blood, saved by grace, and predestined, are only true if we've been praying the Lord's Prayer daily.  Yes Jesus paid the price once and for all, which meant no more sacrifices needed. But asking God for forgiveness of sins is still required daily, according to Jesus

1 John‬ ‭2:4‬

“The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and yet doesn’t keep His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”

The Lord's Prayer, from the Bible:

Matthew 6:9-13

Jesus said: This then, is how you should pray:

Our Father who are in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

Three main problems with Christians and churches today:

  1. Most think the "bread" is our earthly needs.  It's not!  The "Bread" is the spiritual Bread of life, for the forgiveness of sins. References below. 

  2. Most are not praying the Lord's Prayer "daily" as Jesus commanded. The Bible says God renews us day by day, no blanket forgiveness for life. And He also desires to hear from us daily, and properly.

  3. Protestants think this page is a Catholic thing and doesn't concern them. I want to cry! So many are lost! Protestant theologians explained this as, Jesus meant it only for His Jewish disciples. But they missed this verse, Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, ... and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. It's contradicting to their "do nothing" message. They're producing spiritually dead people!!

This part is 1 sentence, not 2:

Give us this day our daily Bread and forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” 

There was no punctuation in the original Aramaic Bible version.

 

The forgiveness of sins is the result of receiving the Bread for that day!!! The Bread is Jesus Himself - the spiritual Bread of life that God gives:  

John 6:32-35:  

32 Jesus: "...my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.

33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life..."

If you're not praying this prayer with the Bread meaning the spiritual Bread of life for the forgiveness of sins, then you're just asking God for lunch! And you remain in your sins!

Jesus, God Himself in the flesh, comes to earth and walks among us, the grandest event in the history of humankind, and He teaches us how to pray for food?!! As in we didn't know how to ask God for food; He had to show us?!! And then most people ignored it as, "Jesus is showing us how to be humble and just ask for the basic necessities of life..."   So most people and churches are not praying this prayer! Even the Catholic church, although they recite it in their sermon, would not acknowledge "the bread" = "the Bread of life". Obviously because, it makes it a DIY version of their Eucharist. Which would belittle their bishops' and priests' roles - if people can receive the Bread of life at home by directly praying to God, then they won't come to church and donate!

 

Covered by the blood, saved by grace, predestined, and born again, are only true if we've been praying the Lord's Prayer daily.

Jesus word-smithed the words in the Lord's Prayer perfectly. Which is consistent with what God did throughout history: 

  • After the fall God was the One that taught Adam and Eve how to present a sacrifice fitting to Him so He could forgive their sins.

  • God was the One that crafted the Leviticus law to Moses that had to be executed precisely for the daily forgiveness of sins.

  • And finally God was the One that word-smithed the Lord’s Prayer for the daily forgiveness of sins. 

If you're not praying the Lord's Prayer daily, you're breaking Jesus' command. 

John 14:15: If you love me, keep my commands.

The Lord's Prayer is at the center of God's redemption plan through Jesus. It is the final and simplest covenant spiritual-obligation outcome of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross as compared to the previous old-covenant of hundreds of ceremonial commandments required daily to accomplish the same.

The Lord's Prayer is Conditional

Jesus did not just casually tell us to pray this prayer, he went on stressing that if we don't forgive others then God would not forgive us, implying that the Bread of life would be withheld even if praying the Lord's Prayer daily! 

Matthew 6:14-15

For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Notes: Only one condition - In order to be forgiven and receive God's blessings we must forgive others!! Notice how loving our God is! He did not give us harsh conditions. He did not say "if you stop sinning" or "if you refrain from this or that!" He just wanted us to forgive others.

 

No wonder there is no peace on earth! All we have today is Christianity people's way, not God's way!! Why would anyone want to pray to Mary and other humans? Why is this prayer not preached in churches today? Why do we ignore Jesus, OUR GOD, and not pray it daily?

Other Confusions about the Lord's Prayer

Some say, "Jesus gave them this prayer before He died on the cross. So the "bread" couldn't possibly be His body at that point."  Well, look closer. John Chapter 6, for example, the 2nd half of that chapter is all about Jesus telling people that they needed to eat His flesh and drink His blood in order to be saved. And that was Jesus before He died. There is no before and after for God; He is "I Am". Sits outside of time.

Others say the "bread" means both earthly needs and spiritual needs. No it does not; trying to include more meanings into it, as in, one of them will hit it right, shows lack of knowledge of God! Only one meaning - the Bread is the body of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus always used the word "Bread" to mean His flesh. He would never instruct us to pray for earthly bread. Examples, in the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 6:31-33: “...don’t worry about earthly needs, but seek God first…”. And in John 6:26-27: "... Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you...". Also see all the Biblical references below, in this section.

And others say, "what's the difference? as long as we pray the prayer."  There is a huge difference! Our spiritual communication with God is about what we mean. The words are meaningless unless we mean what they are in our hearts. Then others may say, "He didn't mean for us to use those exact words."  Why would we change them? They look perfect to me; that prayer is perfectly complete in every way. I wouldn't change anything in it. If you put your human touch on it, you would certainly destroy it!

I hear some saying, "this prayer was given to the Jews; because Jesus and His disciples were Jews." True, but that was Christianity creation in progress. All of Jesus Christ's teachings are the basis for today's Christianity. See my page on Jesus for Jews & Paul for Gentiles?.

Closing Notes

This is a pivotal change in the way the Lord's Prayer has been taught. It now takes on a whole different meaning - we spiritually receive the Bread of life when we ask for it daily, so He remains in us and we remain in Him John 15:5, renewed day by day 2Corinthians 4:16, and we all share the one loaf 1Corinthians‬ ‭10:17. With this understanding putting us back on track with God, so many other verses in the New Testament fit perfectly. 

All we have to do is say this prayer in our hearts once a day, then we will spiritually receive the "daily Bread of life". It is obedience for spiritual-sustenance. As in John 15:5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing." Receiving the "Bread" daily fulfills this verse. Bearing fruit means we grow spiritually and become able to perform miracles! Believing in Jesus is not like believing in Santa Clause. There is a much deeper meaning to believing in Jesus that comes with spiritual requirements, like seek God always, and pray the Lord's Prayer daily. That's right, "requirements", and no that does not mean "works". Look at What Does Believe in Jesus Mean?

Churches went down all kinds of wrong paths and missed this most important command from Jesus. It's going to be a while before people realize the significance of this Bread-meaning correction. It is going to rattle the foundations of many churches of today, both Catholic and Protestant. Hundreds of years of false teaching on the Lord's Prayer subject. Hundreds of years of telling people "do nothing, you're born-again/saved" in some denominations, and pray to humans in others. How could we have possibly missed this? Christian theology colleges and hundreds of years of studying and preaching in churches. But no one saw this? The Bible references shown below, are not hard to find. What are people studying in those Seminary colleges, and in Catholic convents? This prayer is the very heart of God's redemption plan through Jesus!!

Are you thinking "this interpretation of the Lord's Prayer can't possibly be right; could it possibly be that churches and millions of people have missed this truth for hundreds of years?"  Yes it is very possible. Don't look at people around you; look at God in the Bible. It is not about how many intelligent people were involved. The question is, who had wisdom from God? Here is a nice related story about Elijah in this link on my website. And also consider this reference:

Matthew 7:13-4

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Notes: What is the "narrow gate that leads to life"? It means only a small percentage of the population are truly seeking God, and will make it into heaven. Are you in that number? Don't be angry with me for pointing this out. All I'm doing is poke everybody to look again. Herd mentality is the "wide gate", it is not the way to God.

Churches went down all kinds of wrong paths and missed this most important command from Jesus: pray the Lord's Prayer daily!

 

Time to Leave the Churches

- You may be thinking this sounds like the opposite of what we should be doing to be ready for the rapture. It's not!! 

- Comparing what churches are doing today to what the Bible says, I find so much deficiency and misleading doctrines. Before you label me a radical Christian inciting trouble, I urge you to take a close look at the biblical details I found that drove me to make this declaration. My only bias is towards God. My wisdom of seeing clearly comes from God through seeking Him in the scriptures, not from earthly organizations or church denominations. 

- Flee all churches! All of them, if you want to secure your eternity with God! A church, being partly good is not good at all! See my page on what to do instead here: Read the Bible & Research Online

- In this section I show exactly why.  You'll be shocked to see all these missed truths, all with biblical references. It's not me saying, but the Bible saying; it's God's perspective:

Summarizing the Top 3 Reasons to Leave the Churches

  • Protestants (Baptist, Evangelical, ...) - Refuse to pray the Lord's Prayer - The center of God's redemption plan, thrown aside as unimportant! 

  • Catholics (& Greek Orthodox) - Unbiblical doctrines, example "Mary the mother of God" - They'll pray to anybody except God! 

  • Calvinists - God already decided for his mysterious reasons - "Mysteriously picking and choosing from humans to save for his pleasure, and send the rest to hell." 

Obviously no church leaders today are true believers; none are filled with the Holy Spirit. Yes, a bold claim; how dare I say this? Here's why:

Mark 16:17-18

Jesus said: "And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”

John 14:12-14

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

If the pope or the most devout protestant church leader walk into a hospital, can they heal anybody? No. Can they put their hand on a child in wheelchair and make her walk? No. And yet they are the top decision-makers on doctrines, theology, and what to teach people!! And people are still in churches listening to their inefficient teaching and false doctrines!

Comparison of Christian Leaders' Accomplishments, Then and Now

Disciples & Apostles' accomplishments, then:

  • Preached the Word correctly? Yes

  • Laid their hands on sick people and healed them? Yes

  • Laid their hands on crippled people and made them walk? Yes

  • Brought dead people back to life?! (Peter and Paul did!) Yes

  • Paul accidentally picked up a venomous snake and it did not harm him.

  • Number of changes in God's realm: 0 - As it should be!

  • Having dedicated every moment of their lives to this, they were poor and homeless, with barely enough to eat. 💝

Christian leaders' accomplishments, since then:

  • Preached the Word correctly? No

    • Protestants brain-washed people into doing nothing, and just keep saying these words: born-again, saved by the blood, saved by Grace.

    • Catholics brain-washed their people into praying to Mary and saints to intercede with God. 

    • Calvinists brain-washed their people into "God already decided; it's all His will". Anything else is "works", "devil doctrines".

  • And the resulting number of miracles performed in the name of Jesus: 0

  • Number of dead people brought back to life: 0

  • Number of changes in God's realm: 2 - Horrible & blasphemous

    • The Pope seated Mary next to God in heaven as God's mother.

    • The Pope created a mini-Hell (aka, Purgatory) to process certain type sins after death and provide a path to heaven, that Jesus didn't/couldn't provide.

  • Any church leaders homeless or hungry? No, they improved some on that.

    • Protestants stressed the need to tithe 10% - Church leaders are Millionaires with private jets.

    • Catholic churches collected donations and sent to the Vatican. The Vatican's worth is in $trillions. It's an organized spiritual mafia.

 

Do you know who makes it to the top positions in the Vatican and protestant churches? It's usually those who are worldly aggressive stepping all over others, and business shrewd that can grow the church financially, which often equals to un-Godly! 

if you are truly seeking God and His kingdom, then leave all churches, and don't look back! Whether you like it or not, it's fast becoming the way of the future. Recognizing the fiasco and for lack of convincing answers to their good questions, young generations are losing interest and leaving in droves, to become atheist 😢. If your children became atheist after graduating college, I have the perfect link for you: Atheism.

And here is my link on alternatives to going to church, with complete details on how-to, and the consequences: Read the Bible & Research Online

I am a simple "Christian believer", not belonging to any church denomination. My only bias is towards God, no hidden motives. The Christian body of today is spiritually crippled, because it is formed of many contradicting denominations, and many are not “seeking God”; they're mostly businesses and social settings that people enjoy being at. But seeking of God is nowhere to be found!

God never intended for us to have all these contradicting denominations, but rather one Christian body of believers. What is God's view on all this? Here's what the Bible says:

Matthew 18:20 

Jesus said: "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them."

Matthew 16:18

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Notes: For Jesus, the "church" is the Christian body of genuine believers, to be led by someone like Peter filled with the Holy Spirit.  Who said that meant the Catholic church? The Catholic church leaders are filled with everything except the Holy Spirit; they hijacked Christianity!

The 2 or 3 gathering in His name would be one example of that church. If the 2 or 3 are gathered truly in His name, then God would not mislead them or give each group of 2 or 3 different interpretations of the scriptures. So only one explanation, leaders in church-denominations are not truly filled with the Holy Spirit. This is why people need to be on their guard, and not blindly follow their church. It is our eternity we're talking about; are you willing to take a chance with earthly loyalties? There is no "oops" later; no changing your mind after death!

Most people in church-denominations behave as in a war - "us and them", rather than acting like the Godly people they claim to be, loving one another, & truly seeking God! 

Protestants, Catholics, and Calvinists went far apart in their interpretations. Protestants don't do what Catholics do, and vv.. Is this Godly? They each have some good interpretations and some not so good. But each denomination's members are loyal to their church as if they got everything 100% right (sort of like Republicans and Democrats). People don't realize the crucial significance of this! It's our eternity we're talking about. There are enough new facts revealed in this website to spring anyone into investigative action, no matter which denomination they belong to!

The Deficiencies in Church-Denominations

Trying to be fair here, and listing some good for each. But mainly focusing on the deficiencies.

Protestants (incl. Baptists, Evangelical, etc.)

Good preaching from the Bible, but crucial truths are missing, examples:

  • Saved, nothing else to do - The bible is full of verses and parables about spiritual maturity, but all ignored by protestant churches! Why? To please people with the "do nothing" message. They stick to the high-level verses in the Bible, please the people, and collect donations. See my page on Born Again? for more shocking truths.

  • Impossible to become unsaved - Protestants spend whole sermons on "once saved always saved", ignoring the many parables from Jesus about becoming rejected and sent to hell if you're not growing spiritually. Examples, John 15:6 "branches that wither and die", Luke 13:6 "cut the fig tree down", and Matthew 25:30 "cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness". See my page on Born Again? for more shocking truths.

  • Refuse to pray the Lord's Prayer- They utterly refuse to pray it in their sermons, and don't encourage their members to pray it daily as Jesus instructed. Why? 3 reasons: (1) Their arrogant theologians decided Jesus meant it only for His Jewish disciples. They connected it to the manna from Moses, or some worthless explanation like that. They decided, and that's their final answer - But you stopped seeking God! Go back and look!! You messed up big on this one!!! (2) Because Catholics pray this prayer! And (3) because it's a burden to have to pray it daily; contradicting to their "do nothing" message. You're not covered by the blood, nor saved by grace; you're spiritually dead, unless you pray the Lod's Prayer daily - we need the Bread of life daily. See my page on The Lord's Prayer is Severely Misunderstood for eye-opening Bible references.

  • Must tithe the whole 10% - Protestants would spend a whole sermon on the subject of tithing; digging up verses all the way back from Leviticus and making sure that people tithe the full 10% of their income, not 9% or 8% because "they'd be stealing from God." But the Lord's Prayer? "Jesus meant that for the Jews." When in fact tithing was the one meant only for the Jews, for their 11 to 1 tribes' ratio! Tithing was later modified by Paul in the New Testament to: "Any gift is good" Philippians 4:14-17. See section below on Still Tithing 10%?  

  • Solely going by Paul's message as the one for the gentiles, but Protestants have missed the mark by a mile. Most brush off discrepancies between Jesus' message and Paul's as something like: "Jesus meant that for the Jews; Paul's message was for the gentiles who became Christians later..."  This is so dangerous on so many levels, disrespectful to God, and causing spiritual-death to so many people! Those churches missed the following scripture from Jesus after His resurrection talking to His Jewish disciples:

Matthew 28:17-20

... Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Notes: "...go to all nations... and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you." That is "teach all nations everything Jesus commanded His Jewish disciples". Any church who preaches otherwise, makes it no different than the Pharisees who crucified Jesus despite knowing He was the Messiah. All of Jesus teachings are for all people, not just the Jews. And Paul's teachings are a supplement to Jesus'. Any discrepancy between Paul's and Jesus' messages was because Paul's were high-level because the 4 books of the New Testament were not written yet! See my page on Jesus for Jews & Paul for Gentiles?

  • Giant Screens & Loud Music, But No Seeking of God - The focus shifted to big screens, loud music, and waving of hands. When instead it should be on seeking God and His kingdom. Even if we spend every moment of our lives seeking God in the scriptures, we'd barely scratch the surface. But churches went off with what pleases people!! And the sermon preaching is always yearly-rotating the same simple, safe, and unoffending subjects. No preaching on Jesus parables that contradict their theology!! Nor on "politically incorrect" subjects of today's culture; careful not to upset people and lose donations.

  • Immoral scandals - Like other denominations, lacking sound teaching, and not filled with the Holy Spirit, many Protestant church leaders are often in the news with some form of a public immorality. Here's today's.

Related Readings

Born Again?

Jesus for Jews & Paul for Gentiles?
Why didn't Paul Preach the Lord's Prayer?

Catholic Church (including Greek Orthodox)

They got the Nicene Creed right. They do pray the Lord's Prayer in their sermons. And the Eucharist is good, as a symbolic re-enactment of the last supper. 

Other than these, everything else they do is problematic! And even blasphemous!! The Catholic church and their side-kick the Orthodox church teachings, for hundreds of years, have been mostly unbiblical:

  • Little to no spiritual growing - The Catholic church is still running with their antiquated plan since the 3rd century: The church (its priests), supposedly study the Bible, then turn around and teach it to the people who are illiterate and can't read or understand the difficulty of the Bible for themselves." Maybe this was acceptable in 300AD, but now in 2022, I think we can do it ourselves and don't need bishops anymore. We have no excuse not to, except laziness. 

 

  • Minimum Bible reading in sermons - The usual Catholic sermon Bible reading time is nice stories from the new-testament. Followed by a message from the priest about "let's all be good and nice".

  • The Lord's Prayer not interpreted right - The Catholic church would not acknowledge "the Bread" = "the Bread of life". Obviously, because it makes it a DIY version of their Eucharist. Which would belittle their bishops' and priests' roles - if people can receive the Bread of life at home by directly talking to God, then they won't come to church and donate! Is the Catholic church thinking from God's perspective here? Or their financial perspective?

  • Purgatory is a result of misunderstanding some verses in the Bible: 1 John‬ ‭5:16-17‬ and ‭‭Mark‬ ‭3:28-30‬. They took these 2 references and extrapolated a whole doctrine; they called it "Purgatory" which is a kind of a mini-hell. All because Jesus used the term "will not be forgiven in the next age". But there is a good explanation of this in my page here: Purgatory?

  • Mary the mother of God, as in higher level than God! And can influence His decision like she did in the "Wedding at Cana"! The ascension of Mary into heaven became Catholic doctrine in 1950, officially declared by Pope Pius XII. Continued here: Mary The Mother Of God?.

  • The Vatican - A hierarchy of people with costumes and props. They're more concerned with appearance than with substance, in-line with Jewish temples and Pharisees. ... instead of spending their time on seeking God in the scriptures to revisit their ungodly doctrines and see if just in case, ... just in case they messed up! But no, like the rest of churches, they created their niche and cookie-cutters, and are marching forward.

  • Wrong people in charge - The pope is constantly in the news making some political statements, announcing "sweeping reforms" to please people, and taking the church further away from God. These people at the Vatican since the 4th century cannot possibly be the ones that Jesus meant to hand the church to. It was true in the early church days when He handed it to His disciples who witnessed His miracles, and were truly filled with the Holy Spirit. But it's been going downhill since, as human nature takes over. 

  • Pray to saints - So many Catholic people are also praying to a variety of humans they call "saints". Some get on their knees before the statue of so and so, and others lay face down at the feet of another. The Catholic church may claim this is not their teaching. Well the church must be doing something wrong; and certainly not doing anything to stop it. The church is careful not to upset people (where donations come from), but is ok with upsetting God!

  • Abuse scandals - The Catholic church over the years has been riddled with abuse scandals, almost daily stories in the news, here's today's. Catholics are quick to defend it as just news propaganda against the church. Well then what about this? The pope apologized for the sex scandals here

Related Reading

Mary the mother of God

Purgatory?

Calvinists

"Watch out and be on your guard for the yeast of the" Calvinists. So I reused Jesus' words here (as in Matthew 16:6). I'm sure Jesus won't mind.

Giving a quick summary on this subject for those who don't know. Christianity today can be sliced in many different ways in terms of Bible interpretation, one example is the different church-denominations out there. But at a higher layer, there is a fork-in-the-road disagreement on one subject:

1. Calvinist View: We don't have a free-will choice. God elects who He wants to save based on His mysterious reasons. And therefore the blood of Jesus is only extended to those God already elected, not the whole population on earth.

2. Arminian View: We are given the choice to accept God's grace - accepting forgiveness of our sins through the blood of Jesus His Son.

  • Calvinists Doctrine Summary: Based on some verses in the Bible that contain these words "Elect" and "Predestined for His pleasure" and a few other verses that allude to them, the Calvinist church built a whole doctrine around that, ignoring the rest of the thousands of verses in the Bible that say otherwise, and preaching that God is the one who "elects" us based on His mysterious reasons. The Calvinist doctrine states that we have no say in it, no matter what we do. Which makes us mere robots; and which is the complete opposite of what the God we know, would do! The Calvinist doctrine, being human-limited-thinking at its best, cannot see that God is not in our space-time continuum. God is "I Am"; He foresaw us before creation. Romans 8:29 "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son". God foreknew our tendencies first, then destined second! I am very sad for the people following the Calvinist church. They are so misled.
    The line that separates Calvinists from Arminians is "free will". Calvinists say we don't have free will; God decides everything. Arminians say we have free will, and we decide to accept God's Grace or not. 

  • Do nothing, God already decided based on His mysterious reasons - Calvinists are even worse than the regular Protestants, in the "do nothing" message. They take it a step further to tell their members that no matter what they do, God already decided who will be saved and who won't. Calvinists don't encourage reading the Bible either. They do however encourage to read some books from famous Calvinist leaders!

   

  • God's election decision is Unconditional - ignoring the many Bible statements from Jesus/God saying things like, "if you love me, I will love you back..." and "if you obey my commands, you will be my people..." But Unconditional is the only way the Calvinist doctrine can hold. If God's predestination was conditional, their whole doctrine would crumble.

   

  • Scripture meaning manipulated - They also try to put words in the scripture's mouth; make it seem that "the Bible did not really intend to say 'that', but rather it meant to tell us 'this'..."  For example they teach: "any biblical reference to 'the whole world' actually means 'the whole world of the Elect', not the actual whole world." I can understand human incompetency can lead to misinterpretations, but this? I don't see how their church members can swallow it!  And sometimes the meaning is manipulated to accommodate certain psychological human behavior...You get the picture. They're in the same league with Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, etc..

  • Violent Internet Forums - I see thousands of violent internet forums and debates raging on between "Calvinists" and "Arminians". So much time and effort wasted. People treating this like a sports game; who will win? When instead, we should all be Christians, and direct our efforts to seeking God. But the competitive-sports-minded people, which we have ample supply of in this country, chose to run with it for the win. 

A Calvinist saw my post on one of the forums about the Lord's Prayer. He replied "I see you so arrogantly state this. What makes you think that God would change His plan because of your praying?" Whether the Calvinist church taught him this or not is irrelevant. The problem is, this is what their people think!!!

And in a separate forum a Calvinist was mistaken for an Arminian. He replied: "heavens I am no Arminian. the doctrine of human freewill is Satan's no.1 deception in my mind and the mainspring from which flows salvation by works and conditional salvation [probation] oh no no I am not an Arminian." I'm guessing this person left the Catholic church and became Calvinist, because of this: "conditional salvation probation", which is purgatory.

My thoughts: Wow! These people are possessed! Does "free will" automatically mean salvation by works? What are they indoctrinating them in those Calvinist churches? Are Arminians basing their salvation on "works"? Is declaring to accept God's grace "works"? Reading the Bible and praying is "works"? Actually, the Calvinists calling Arminians devil-deceived is very similar to when the Pharisees kept telling Jesus He was demon-possessed: John 8:48, The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?

Related Reading

Predestination Demystified

Calling All Christians

Calling all Christians who genuinely care. Churches made a mockery of God's word!! Do you know what all this means? A partially good church is not good at all!! Preaching partial truth means people are lost; not saved! They are producing spiritually dead people!! They perverted God's word and made a mockery of it! millions of innocent people are spiritually lost. Which is fulfilling Jesus' "wide gate" verse in Matthew 7:13-14.

If you believe your church is great and want to stay with them, show them this page. Let them know they need to revisit their teaching to make it in-line with the Bible! Have them forward it to their theologians, Vatican, and seminary colleges. Or simply separate from them.

If by miracle of God churches agreed to change, here's the biblical way

Protestants:

  • The Lord's Prayer prayed daily with the "bread" = "Bread of life" for forgiveness. Then you become saved! First meet God's requirement, then do your other fluff.

  • Mature spiritually by seeking God in the Bible - Your sermon needs to change from 90% hymns/other, 10% Bible reading, to 90% Bible reading, 10% hymns / other. Sure you'll lose people, but you'll gain God. The ones that leave are in it for the social and entertainment aspect of it, not Godly people.

  • Downsize your seminary colleges, get rid of your theology professors. They're not Godly; how could they have missed all these truths!!

  • No more pushing for 10% tithing! Any gift is good as the apostle Paul said. Get rid of your Business Development people. THIS IS A HOUSE OF GOD!!

Catholics:

  • The Lord's Prayer prayed daily with the "bread" = "Bread of life" for forgiveness. And stop praying the rosary!!

  • Mature spiritually by seeking God in the Bible - Your sermon needs to change from 1% Bible reading, 99% repetitive stuff stand-up sit-down incense, to 90% Bible reading,10% other stuff. Sure you'll lose people, but you'll gain God. The ones that leave are in it for the tradition's aspect of it, not Godly people.

  •  The pope  should reverse all unbiblical doctrines, starting with "Mary the mother of God" and "Purgatory"! And stop the unbiblical "canonization of saints"! All true believers who pray the Lord's Prayer daily are righteous in the eyes of God and are called saints. Abolish the process and follow this list.

Calvinists:

  • The Lord's Prayer prayed daily with the "bread" = "Bread of life" for forgiveness. Then you become predestined! 

  • Mature spiritually by seeking God in the Bible because if not you can become un-predestined!  "pre" and "post" are for humans - God is outside of time; He sees it all always!

  • Ignore your "respected Calvinist book authors"! READ ONLY THE BIBLE!!

  • TULIP? We can't make a "cookie-cutter" out of God's scripture! We have to keep seeking God, learning, and maturing.

Churches Are Businesses

  They call themselves non-profit, but in reality they're high-profit. It is acceptable to collect tithes and donations from the people, but only when teaching sound doctrines from the Bible. Not when misleading them!

John 21:17

Jesus asked a third time, “Simon son of John, do you love Me?” ...Yes, Lord,” he answered, “You know I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Feed My sheep.” 

But churches are not feeding the sheep with proper truths. And still charging them tithes and donations. 

Shortly after the disciples and Paul's generation died off, churches' spiritual quality went downhill. Not surprising; they even went downhill in-between Paul's visits to those churches in his days: Galatians 1:6, I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel.

The real objective of churches is money, not God, as evident in these public facts:

  • Seminary college graduates find high-paying jobs at churches.

  • Bankers estimate the Vatican's wealth between $10 billion and $15 billion and some think it's $ trillions.

  • Catholic churches around the world send money to the Vatican! It's an organized spiritual mafia. Sure the Vatican has charity programs, but bankers estimate those to be "a drop in the bucket" compared to the church's wealth. Btw, if you check public records, you'll find that the Vatican's wealth doubled shortly after their 1950 official announcement of Mary's ascension to heaven! It's a business - please the people and collect more donations.

  • Catholic church doctrines keep changing according to what people like to hear, instead of truly seeking God.

  • Nobody is Seeking God! How else can we explain why no one is truly filled with the Holy Spirit anymore? You ask, "how do you know no one is?" where are the miracles? Truly filled with the Holy Spirit = miracles, as in the days of Paul and the disciples.  Here's the reason why: Many church leaders today are millionaires. This is usually the objective of theology graduates. 

 

It's time for people to be vigilant about their spiritual status and their eternity. And not rely on churches. There is no oops later. When facing God at judgement, claiming it's the church's fault will not fly. The Bible is full of verses that point to personal responsibility to mature spiritually, or face spiritual death, which leads to hell. We need to learn the truth and grow spiritually. How do we do that:

- Seek God by reading the Bible (or hearing), as Jesus instructed in the Sermon on the Mount.

- Seek His Righteousness by praying the Lord’s Prayer daily as Jesus instructed. And meaning it correctly: the daily Bread is the body of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. Why daily? Because Jesus said so in the prayer. And, you don’t have to chew on actual bread like some churches advise. You can spiritually receive God’s Bread of life by genuinely saying the Lord's Prayer. 

Do you know this verse from Jesus? Luke 9:60 “Leave the dead to bury their own dead. But as for you, go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” And along those lines I say, let the dead attend church with the dead. But as for you, genuine Christian believer, leave the churches and seek the kingdom of God by studying the scriptures with your family and friends, without letting the church poison your knowledge. See my page on what to do instead here: Read the Bible & Research OnlineI assure you God will be with you and will guide you.

Still Tithing 10%?

Should be more like 0.01% today. The 10% tithing was advised by God in the days of Moses when it was an 11 to 1 ratio of tribes. Of the 12 tribes of Israel, one tribe, the Levites was the priestly tribe who did not get a land inheritance and instead was given 10% of goods from the other 11 tribes.

 

This was because the Levites had a tough job to execute hundreds of requirements in the temple of God daily, and had no time to work the land, God advised the other 11 tribes to give a tenth of their produce to the Levite tribe. Today's church, in comparison does nothing, except preach on Sunday what their predecessors preached. And is still pressing their members to tithe the full 10%. Also in comparison, the ratio of people-to-church-ministers today is more like 1,000 to 1, vs., the Jews was 11 to 1.

 

So a more fair tithing number today would be 0.01% of income, and this is more than enough for the inefficient preaching they do. Donate the rest of the 10% to charity.

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