Mary The Mother Of God?
Please don't misunderstand, this is not about bashing Mary. I have the utmost respect for the Blessed Mary. I know this is a much debated subject, and I respect all people. And no I'm not targeting Mary and the Catholic church. I'm actually exposing the rest of the denominations much worse (see Related Readings at the bottom).
What is your spiritual objective in life?
1. Stay true to your earthly loyalties, and social and emotional needs?
2. Or truly find God, and spend eternity with Him?
There is no oops later. If you die without becoming a true believer you will not gain eternal life! This is extremely serious; an eternal life in torment and darkness; for ever, infinity. Just to defend your social setting, ancestral loyalties, and emotional needs here on earth?
1. Stay loyal to your earthly social, and emotional needs?
The usual earthly complacent human behavior:
Mary is the mother of God. She'll talk to her son for me; intercede. Completely trusting the church with this.
Our family prayed to Mary for generations. All our ancestors believed this; who am I to change it?
Mary is the mother of the world.
We don't do like the protestants. We don't want them to win this battle. We will remain loyal to Mary. "Us and Them" attitude. And of course the Protestants too have the same "us and them" attitude.
2. Or truly find God, and spend eternity with Him:
The only way to God is through His redemption plan - Jesus' death on the cross. There is no other way through another person whispering in God's ear.
There is one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 1Timothy 2:5.
Mary was appointed mediator by the people, not by God! People gave her roles that God never intended nor approved.
Pray to God only! The triune God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Do not pray to any humans or saints!
Seek God by reading the Bible. And pray the Lord's Prayer daily.
The blessed Mary is the mother of Jesus the human.
The blessed Mary is not the mother of Jesus the son of God.
Jesus did not come into existence when Mary gave birth to Him.
Before Mary was born, Jesus is "I Am"
"Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
The mother-son relationship between Mary and Jesus stopped after the death of Jesus on the cross. It has become a human-God relationship like the rest of humans, but with special consideration to Mary similar to prophets and disciples.
The statement above is consistent with God's ways. It conforms with the scripture as a whole. This is the normal progression of things; there is nothing in the Bible that contradicts it.
Biblical references are the official truth about the way to God. And there is nothing there about the blessed Mary in relation to the way to God. God saw that Mary was blessed among women, and gave her a big role - deliver Jesus to earth in order to accomplish God's redemption plan. Before coming to earth through His birth from Mary, Jesus was with God for eternity past (John 1:1-4). He came to earth for the sole purpose of dying on the cross to accomplish God's redemption plan. Jesus was not unfairly crucified and killed by the Jews; He did not come to this earth to have a family and raise children! Although the Jews did mean it for bad, God meant it for good in order to bring salvation to all people on earth. And this is the sole main objective of the Christian religion. Why are people doing this to themselves and to the blessed Mary?
The Catholic church and its side-kick the Greek Orthodox church have been misleading people since their creation around the 4th century. Abusing their powers and making announcements unauthorized by God. The biggest unbiblical and misleading doctrine was "the belief in the ascension of Mary into heaven, as the mother of God". It became Catholic doctrine in 1950 when Pope Pius XII officially declared it. The Greek Orthodox church had already made similar official declaration earlier.
The blessed Mary is a human, and is dead and buried like all other prophets and disciples who died. Of course from God's eternal perspective He sees her alive in Heaven, but from our human perspective before the end of this age and judgement day, she's dead. Yes a Blessed woman and her spirit is in the hands of God right now, similar to other spirits of God-chosen people like Moses, Elijah, the disciples, etc. who will become alive in the next age after judgement day. But she is not alive today, did not ascend into heaven, nor is seated next to Jesus. She cannot hear any prayers; she’s not Deity or a mediator between people and God. Where in the Bible does it say any of these things? You can only stretch the "wedding at Cana" so much. Jesus is the only mediator, 1Timothy 2:5: “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” And He is alive in the flesh today just as He ascended into heaven 2,000 years ago, and is seated at the right-hand of God the father.
Please look for yourself. We all do our homework for everything in life; example, we don't buy a car without reading all the details and reviews on it. We should also do our homework checking the facts in the Bible related to our eternity status!!! And not just rely on the church. Look close for yourself, you'll be shocked. Because what I have uncovered here, is dangerous biblical facts that make the Vatican a mere social organization blaspheming against God!
Jesus Gave the Authority to Peter
Jesus gave the authority to Peter, to attend to the spiritual needs of the people - Jesus told Peter: "feed My sheep" John 21:15-17. He trusted Peter with making sure that His teachings and commandments reach people throughout the world, and even perform miracles in His name. But He did not instruct him to create "New-Testament Part 2"!! Or make changes in the structure of God and His heaven! Converting people from humans to Gods is not the business of the Vatican. Let's look again at what Jesus told Peter:
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will have been loosed in heaven.”
But Jesus also said the exact same sentence later and clarified how to use this power:
If your brother sins against you, go tell him his fault, between you... If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven
Notes: It becomes obvious when we look at the before and after verses that this whole binding and loosening was about people relations on earth and attending to their needs. Meaning whatever the church determines, related to people's affairs, will be approved in heaven. This does not include the power to make Mary a Deity and seat her next to God the father!
Who is the Woman in Heaven with a Crown of Twelve Stars on her Head?
She's not Mary. Because a few verses down, it talks about this woman's other offspring, which is a major contradiction to the Catholic church, and their self-declared "perpetual virginity of Mary".
Mary is not the "queen of heaven". Mary is the "Blessed Mary", as God called her. Nothing else different about her in the Bible.
Obviously the Catholic church had desperately scoured the Bible in search for any scripture that might remotely hint at Mary as anything more that fit their agenda, to please the people. Revelation 12 was all they could find, and they latched on to it. But looking at the rest of the verses in Revelation 12 reveals a different woman. It's the nation of Israel; the twelve tribes of Israel (crown of 12 stars). In the old-testament, the nation of Israel was often symbolized as a woman, example Ezekiel 16.
Here are the explanations to the specific verses in Revelation 12:
Driven to wilderness for a time - Israelites in the desert for 40 years.
The 12 stars on her crown are the 12 tribes of Israel.
The child is Jesus. He was born to the nation of Israel, descendent of King David. "...will rule all the nations with an iron scepter."
The dragon is satan.
He tried to kill the child right after birth: King Herod killing all infants under 2-yr old.
He tried to derail Jesus in the desert when he tempted Him.
He entered Judas to hand Jesus over to be crucified.
Then Revelation 12:17 mentioned other offspring to the woman, which is a major contradiction to the Catholic church, another unbiblical doctrine called: "The perpetual virginity of Mary". Revelation 12:17: "Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring - those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.". This is clearly describing the rest of the nation of Israel's offspring, which are the disciples of Jesus, who brutally suffered later in their lives.
Mary is not the mother of God
The Bible always referred to Mary as the mother of Jesus, never as the mother of God. She was last mentioned in the Bible when the Holy Spirit came upon her (and many others) on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). After that, we hear nothing else about Mary in the Bible. Then Pope Pius decided to do a Part-II of the Bible to please people, which meant more donations to the church! It is acceptable to take donations when teaching the true word of God! But not when teaching unbiblical human doctrines!!!
For those wanting the Blessed Mary to be the mother of God so badly, there is a harsh reality for them in the Bible:
As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”
He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
While Jesus was still speaking to the crowds, His mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to Him. Someone told Him, “Look, Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to You.” But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers?” Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.
Notes: When we look at biblical references like these, we may think even Jesus did not acknowledge His mother, and was insensitive to her. But He was not! He was just very focused on God and His plan to provide salvation to people, including to Mary. And Mary herself saw this clearly later, on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2:1-4.
Some are in it Because Mary Represents the Caring Woman and Mother
But if they only knew God, they would have changed their ways! God is "I Am"; He is not male nor female. God transcends the human concept of sex. These attributes are for humans. God is our parent representing both genders and He is far more loving and caring than any human can be. He chose to be called "Father" but He is both parents, as clear in these verses:
God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
'As one whom his mother comforts, so I will comfort you; you shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
'Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even she may forget, yet I will not forget you.'
So all those in need of a female Godly figure to turn to “because she understands women better” or "because she's like a mother to everyone", and went on and gave the blessed Mary more roles than God intended, need to stop that. The blessed Mary herself would chastise them severely for this, and would ask them to turn to God!
“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”
Misunderstood Biblical References
One of the biblical references used to justify all this is, Luke 1:41-43 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? Beautiful scripture! Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and her baby (John the Baptist) leaped in her womb. Mary here was carrying Jesus in her womb, and Elizabeth called her "the mother of my Lord". She did not say "the mother of my God". She said Lord. Take a look at all public books and all the way back in historic books. The term "Lord" does not exclusively mean God. It is mostly used with people of status - a high-priest, a bishop, a king, etc.. To the people around Him, Jesus was a human teacher or rabbi, but was called Lord throughout the new testament.
And this one:
On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples. When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you."
Notes: As in, "He didn't want to help them, but Mary forced His hand; she told Him what to do". Every Catholic person I know points to this as the undisputable higher authority of Mary over Jesus. My goodness! This is worse than the Calvinists. When people develop a mental block, it stays with them all the way to hell. So throw the whole Bible away? And use these 2 references here to secure your eternity?
And Some Pray to Mary Because "God is a Male Chauvinist"
In today's culture some people may think (inwardly), God must be a chauvinist, because there is no female representation in heaven, and because of biblical verses like these:
"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior."
Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.
For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
And due to the unfortunate male/female relationships on this earth, women can become resentful and push the elevation of Mary into places unintended by God. God is not a Chauvinist. It is the earthly evil that drove people to think earthly, not spiritually, and not see God clearly.
The human relationships problem really started with men. God meant for man to be, lovingly and responsibly, the head of the family. But most men just abuse their privileges. The harsh reality is that we live in a male-chauvinistic world, which produced bitter women over time causing unnecessary actions. Example, women's liberation movement in the 60s, which followed right after Pope Pius' announcement of the Deity of Mary doctrines in the 50s. It was like a domino effect, all started by the ugliness of men. One can't blame women for this; they are the victims. The blame goes to the devil who has a good footing in this world. This is a result of people not doing the right things towards God, which is fueling the devil's firm-grip on earth! And this is why bad things happen on earth, including to innocent babies!
Some may ask, "is this guy saying there should have never been a women liberation movement?" Not quite. I'm saying women were already free, and should have been viewed as such; no liberation movement was necessary. The Bible did not say women should not go to college, or cannot get a job equal to men! The Bible only described spiritual activities in relation to God - God gave the role to men; not to be misunderstood as demeaning to women. In the same way in the Jewish days God gave the priestly role to the tribe of Levi. Only a Levite could enter the inner room where God had a presence. Not because Levi was any better than his 11 brothers. It was a God choice. Clearly nothing chauvinistic about it.
No need for a female representation in heaven. Please stop this; it's blasphemous and producing generations of spiritually dead people. Doing the right things towards God is not difficult. The main three things are: (1) truly believe, and submit to God, (2) seek God by reading the Bible, and (3) pray the Lord's Prayer once a day, with the "bread" meaning the body of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins. God will receive you with pleasure no matter what you've done in your past.
Don't Pray to People
Look in the Bible. These verses clearly say not to pray to people:
As Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet to worship him. But Peter helped him up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
After Paul raised a man from the dead: "When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, “The gods have come down to us in human form!” Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes because he was the chief speaker. The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought bulls and wreaths to the city gates because he and the crowd wanted to offer sacrifices to them.
But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting: “Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them.
"43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44 How can you believe since you accept glory from one another but do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?"
Notes: Jesus expressing frustration over how people love to elevate each other.
Do Not Call Anyone on Earth Father
This includes not calling priests "father":
But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher [Jesus], and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth your father, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Christ.
If the Catholic church had focused on teaching the scripture properly, example, pray the Lord's Prayer daily with the "bread" meaning Jesus' body for the forgiveness of sins, and encouraged people to seek God by reading the Bible, we would not have gotten to this blasphemous state today, with millions of spiritually-dead people! People would have seen clearly, fell in love with God's personality, and learned that His redemption plan was the main objective of the Christian religion, instead of their emotions-driven praying to Mary.
If the ascension of Mary to heaven was true, then God would not have left people in the dark about it! He would not have left such an unprecedented event out of the Bible. It is so unlike God's personality to only give this information to Pope Pius to announce it!! At a minimum Isaiah or one of the prophets would have prophesied something about it. No hint of this anywhere in the Bible!! This is a huge unbiblical mistake! It puts the Vatican in the same league with other unbiblical churches like Calvinists, Jehovah's witnesses, and Mormons. So Mary is now seated at the right-hand of God with her son Jesus?!! In the highest heaven, the unapproachable light? (Timothy 6:16: who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever.) Meaning Mary transformed from human to Deity? This is even contradicting to the Catholic church's own teachings! Why then is Mary not in "In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit"? And why is she not in the Nicene Creed? Are we to expect an updated version of the Nicene creed to be issued by the Vatican?
Ever since the 3rd century, Christians became less and less filled with the Holy Spirit, resulting in unbiblical theologies. Notice the Bible uses the term "filled with", as in a "measure of", in connection with those who were truly filled with the Holy Spirit back in the days of Jesus, Mary, and Paul. Today, if we are to use a measure, it appears that Christians "barely have a trace of" the Holy Spirit in them. It's been going downhill since shortly after the death of the disciples of Jesus and their generation. Actually don't be surprised. History keeps repeating itself. The same thing happened with the Jews. In the days of Moses, the Jews in the desert obeyed God's commandments and God lived among them. Remained fairly good up to the days of Kings David and Solomon. Then during the next 1,500 years or so things went downhill, up to the days of Jesus. When Jesus showed up, those Jews were so blind spiritually, they could not recognize their own Messiah. Their high-priest Caiaphas, single-handedly drove His crucifixion.
Non-Biblical Internet References
There are many internet sites saying that Mary's body ascended to heaven and she's seated next to Jesus. Here are parts from one of them:
The early centuries of the Christian tradition were silent on the death of Mary. But by the seventh and eighth centuries, the belief in the bodily ascension of Mary into heaven, had taken a firm hold in both the Western and Eastern Churches. But the Eastern Orthodox Greek Church held to the dormition of Mary. According to this, Mary had a natural death, and her soul was then received by Christ. Her body arose on the third day after her death. She was then taken up bodily into heaven.
For a long time, the Catholic Church was ambiguous on whether Mary rose from the dead after a brief period of repose in death and then ascended into heaven or was “assumed” bodily into heaven before she died. Belief in the ascension of Mary into heaven became Catholic doctrine in 1950. Pope Pius XII then declared that Mary was not subject to the law of remaining in the corruption of the grave, and she did not have to wait until the end of time for the redemption of her body.
Notes: Let's start with the first 2 sentences. This confirms that it took the usual time after the truly Holy-Spirit-filled generations died off until the human-natured people took over.
So they're not sure if "Mary rose from the dead and went to heaven... or ascended bodily into heaven before she died?!" How did the Bible miss telling us this? If the blessed Mary was here today, she would personally put a stop to all this non-sense. They hijacked her role in the Bible, and took it into all kinds of wrong directions, unintended by God. How do I know this? I know God through diligently seeking Him in the Bible for years, and I know I am filled with the Holy Spirit. This doctrine is not from God.
The devil cooked-up the perfect lie. He used Mary in it. No one dares to dispute this claim. No one dares to say Mary is not the mother of God!
So What Then Should the Catholic People Do?
Simply become Christians by the Bible; no denomination. The Bible only talked about "2 or 3 gathered in His name", and about "the church", which is the body of believers wherever and whoever they may be.
Read the Bible and Research Online. You can either leave the church and do your own Bible reading, or stay and supplement with it.
Get on the right path with God and watch your life transform in amazing ways; God's blessings will pour out on you. As you stand today, believing the unbiblical doctrines of Mary, you are on the wrong track in God's eyes. Effectively you don't know God, and are heading to spiritual death.
Don't become a protestant. Don't become a Baptist or Evangelical, or a Calvinist.
Don't pray the rosary any more. Just pray the Lord's Prayer once a day. This is what Jesus said to do. And this is God's redemption plan for us. Nothing else to supplement with.
Don't also pray to Mary after you pray to God; she is not His mother! He sees it differently than you see it. It is most painful to Him:
Exodus 20:4-5 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God...”
You don't have to become anything other than a "Christian". God never intended for us to have denominations.
And What Should the Catholic Church Do?
True reforms, towards God, not to please people! The current pope can be a hero for God, and reverse Pope Pius-XII's reckless and blasphemous doctrines. Sure it will upset some people, but it will please God! If you truly believe in God, which side do you want to be on? Even the Jews during the years of their deterioration had an occasional king that "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord", who demolished/reversed the previous king's damage to God's law. Example here: 2Kings 18:3-4 [King Hezekiah] "He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, just as his father David had done. He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it."
Sound familiar? Moses showed them the way to God, but few generations later they decided to worship the bronze snake!